michelle obama did the character. bill clinton did the unprecedented economic argument. and then president obama did the, you know, hey, the -- made the case for looking forward. each night seemed to have a theme that fit together. look at tampa. you did not have the same thing. it was all about trying to fix the likability ratings, but not a lot of memorable specific details for instance on what a mitt romney presidency would look like. >> yeah. and democrats have been chiding the republicans for not putting more meat on the bones on their ideas. on the other hand, the president's advisers promised there would be specifics in the speech. did you hear any new policy or substance? >> i heard nothing new. more of a -- you know, look, the incumbent trying to make the don't change horses in midstream and making the case that the same ideas he's been advocating that haven't been passed. he will now push to try to them be passed. you didn't hear, you know what, this is going to be how we'll deal with the debt and deficit or entitlement reform or how we'll deal with the housing